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(.#511).- GEIPAN, France has been investigating UFOs for 40 years, everything is public.
With Geipan, France has also been investigating UFOs for 40 years (and everything is public)
The Pentagon has invested millions for 5 years to study evidence of "unidentified flying objects".
18/12/2017
By Grégory Rozières
C.I.A.
France also investigates UFOs for 40 years (photo: a declassified photo of the C.I.A.)
SPACE - A revelation that has everything to please conspirators in the conspiracy theory. The New York Times claims, with supporting evidence this Saturday, December 16, that the Pentagon conducted for 5 years a research program on possible UFOs. From 2007 to 2012, strange images were analyzed by the "Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program", with an annual budget of $ 22 million.
The organization has primarily studied videos of US military aircraft facing unidentified flying objects, in the proper sense of the term. If all this seems very mysterious, it should be remembered that France also studies the PAN, or unidentified aerospace phenomena. And this for 40 years.
The body responsible for this is called Geipan and reports to the National Center for Space Studies (Cnes). Moreover, its director, interviewed by The HuffPost, does not find the revelation of the New York Times so incredible. "It is normal for the Defense to investigate the unknown things faced by American pilots, and this without specifically looking for extraterrestrials," explains Jean-Paul Aguttes, Geipan manager since 2016.
9% of phenomena remain a mystery
Moreover, recent declassified archives showed that the C.I.A. also was interested in these testimonies of people claiming to have seen a strange phenomenon in the sky. On the other hand, there is a French specificity. Data from Geipan, which has existed since 1977, is public.
Update: an earlier version of the article incorrectly explained that the Geipan was not related to Defense. It is part of their partners and of the steering committee.
"We do not only work with Defense. We analyze anomalies observed for the most part by the man in the street", explains Jean-Paul Aguttes. Thus, in 40 years, Geipan teams, which include three people and a half-time, plus forty volunteers, have investigated 2,687 cases. As a rule, the phenomena find an explanation (or are simply impossible to identify, due to lack of data).
Since the beginning of the analyzes, only 9% of the phenomena are considered by Geipan as "unidentified"
These 200 or so cases are accessible to everyone on the organization's website. These are the phenomena classified "D". You can read a summary and a description of the phenomenon and the investigation that followed (an example here).
Geipan investigators always start by questioning the person remotely, then by verifying, in particular with computer tools, the possible causes of the phenomenon. Thus, airplanes, balloons or even celestial lanterns are the preferred cause of 40 to 50% of cases.
No "very strange" case discovered in 40 years
"We receive 500 contacts each year, 250 of which deserve an investigation," says Jean-Paul Aguttes. If a third of the cases are not usable, it is necessary to send an investigator, volunteer, on site for 10% of the reports. Different hypotheses are then put forward. If one of them is more than 50% probable, the file is closed. Otherwise, the phenomenon is considered "unidentified"..
In recent years, Geipan has precisely created two categories for "D" cases, unidentified phenomena. D1, for strange, and D2, for "very strange". But for the moment, no testimony has been classified in D2. "We created this classification to be stricter and more precise. The strangeness of the phenomenon must be important, but also that the observation must be consistent," explains Jean-Paul Aguttes.
Thus, an object running at full speed cannot be classified D2 if there have not been at least two independent witnesses. But this is not enough. For example, in 2014, two motorists saw a "bright phenomenon in bright colors". All without knowing each other.
But there is a problem: "The great distance of observation, the dynamic behavior of the phenomenon without exceptional character, the limited duration of each observation, the fact that the witnesses are constantly in motion (even slow) and have essentially observed through a car window are a set of points which do not allow classification in D2 ", specifies Geipan.
"Unidentified" phenomena are decreasing
In 40 years, the cases reported were first significant, then experienced a long fall, until 2007. The increase was then spectacular. Difficult to explain with certainty, but the boom in social networks, fun flying objects and other celestial lanterns, as well as the opening of the Geipan website in 2007 are certainly not unrelated, notes the organization.
On the other hand, another trend has been visible for 40 years: the decrease in the number of "unidentified" phenomena. The famous "D" cases. In the past 10 years, only 2% of reports have been classified in this category.
GEIPAN
Be careful not to forget that the growing number of reports falsifies this result. However, the D cases are all in all diminishing. We went "from 6.8 D / year cases on average from 1975 to 2004, to 2.5 D / year cases on average since 2005".
Two things can explain this drop, according to Jean-Paul Aguttes. "We are stricter than before. In addition, the tools at our disposal have evolved. The investigators, too, use new interview techniques", explains the director of Geipan. "However, the Geipan does not see everything and is not aware of what is happening everywhere in France", he nuances.
For tools that have improved classification, the digital revolution has a lot to do with it. "Google Street View is great," says Jean-Paul Aguttes. "If a witness observed something through his window, we can identify where he is looking, what was his angle of vision in relation to the decor. We can then crosscheck it with other tools allowing to analyze the passage of planes, the weather conditions, the stars, the direction of the wind ", he lists.
But if these testimonies are never conclusive and are further down, what is the use of the Geipan? "We above all render a service to witnesses, by explaining in most cases the extraordinary, which sometimes prevents people from sleeping, who feel helpless," says Jean-Paul Aguttes.
But who, little green men? If the director of Geipan "does not exclude anything", recalling that science is "helpless in the face of what it does not understand", he remains fairly pragmatic.
"I think there is a much greater probability of discovering extraterrestrials at home, on exoplanets, than at home. We would then have to imagine an extraterrestrial life which becomes intelligent, then discovers unknown technologies. And even, they should visit Earth while we are there, a time very small on the scale of the universe. "
- Jean-Paul Aguttes
F I N .
With Geipan, France has also been investigating UFOs for 40 years (and everything is public)
The Pentagon has invested millions for 5 years to study evidence of "unidentified flying objects".
18/12/2017
By Grégory Rozières
C.I.A.
France also investigates UFOs for 40 years (photo: a declassified photo of the C.I.A.)
SPACE - A revelation that has everything to please conspirators in the conspiracy theory. The New York Times claims, with supporting evidence this Saturday, December 16, that the Pentagon conducted for 5 years a research program on possible UFOs. From 2007 to 2012, strange images were analyzed by the "Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program", with an annual budget of $ 22 million.
The organization has primarily studied videos of US military aircraft facing unidentified flying objects, in the proper sense of the term. If all this seems very mysterious, it should be remembered that France also studies the PAN, or unidentified aerospace phenomena. And this for 40 years.
The body responsible for this is called Geipan and reports to the National Center for Space Studies (Cnes). Moreover, its director, interviewed by The HuffPost, does not find the revelation of the New York Times so incredible. "It is normal for the Defense to investigate the unknown things faced by American pilots, and this without specifically looking for extraterrestrials," explains Jean-Paul Aguttes, Geipan manager since 2016.
9% of phenomena remain a mystery
Moreover, recent declassified archives showed that the C.I.A. also was interested in these testimonies of people claiming to have seen a strange phenomenon in the sky. On the other hand, there is a French specificity. Data from Geipan, which has existed since 1977, is public.
Update: an earlier version of the article incorrectly explained that the Geipan was not related to Defense. It is part of their partners and of the steering committee.
"We do not only work with Defense. We analyze anomalies observed for the most part by the man in the street", explains Jean-Paul Aguttes. Thus, in 40 years, Geipan teams, which include three people and a half-time, plus forty volunteers, have investigated 2,687 cases. As a rule, the phenomena find an explanation (or are simply impossible to identify, due to lack of data).
Since the beginning of the analyzes, only 9% of the phenomena are considered by Geipan as "unidentified"
These 200 or so cases are accessible to everyone on the organization's website. These are the phenomena classified "D". You can read a summary and a description of the phenomenon and the investigation that followed (an example here).
Geipan investigators always start by questioning the person remotely, then by verifying, in particular with computer tools, the possible causes of the phenomenon. Thus, airplanes, balloons or even celestial lanterns are the preferred cause of 40 to 50% of cases.
No "very strange" case discovered in 40 years
"We receive 500 contacts each year, 250 of which deserve an investigation," says Jean-Paul Aguttes. If a third of the cases are not usable, it is necessary to send an investigator, volunteer, on site for 10% of the reports. Different hypotheses are then put forward. If one of them is more than 50% probable, the file is closed. Otherwise, the phenomenon is considered "unidentified"..
In recent years, Geipan has precisely created two categories for "D" cases, unidentified phenomena. D1, for strange, and D2, for "very strange". But for the moment, no testimony has been classified in D2. "We created this classification to be stricter and more precise. The strangeness of the phenomenon must be important, but also that the observation must be consistent," explains Jean-Paul Aguttes.
Thus, an object running at full speed cannot be classified D2 if there have not been at least two independent witnesses. But this is not enough. For example, in 2014, two motorists saw a "bright phenomenon in bright colors". All without knowing each other.
But there is a problem: "The great distance of observation, the dynamic behavior of the phenomenon without exceptional character, the limited duration of each observation, the fact that the witnesses are constantly in motion (even slow) and have essentially observed through a car window are a set of points which do not allow classification in D2 ", specifies Geipan.
"Unidentified" phenomena are decreasing
In 40 years, the cases reported were first significant, then experienced a long fall, until 2007. The increase was then spectacular. Difficult to explain with certainty, but the boom in social networks, fun flying objects and other celestial lanterns, as well as the opening of the Geipan website in 2007 are certainly not unrelated, notes the organization.
On the other hand, another trend has been visible for 40 years: the decrease in the number of "unidentified" phenomena. The famous "D" cases. In the past 10 years, only 2% of reports have been classified in this category.
GEIPAN
Be careful not to forget that the growing number of reports falsifies this result. However, the D cases are all in all diminishing. We went "from 6.8 D / year cases on average from 1975 to 2004, to 2.5 D / year cases on average since 2005".
Two things can explain this drop, according to Jean-Paul Aguttes. "We are stricter than before. In addition, the tools at our disposal have evolved. The investigators, too, use new interview techniques", explains the director of Geipan. "However, the Geipan does not see everything and is not aware of what is happening everywhere in France", he nuances.
For tools that have improved classification, the digital revolution has a lot to do with it. "Google Street View is great," says Jean-Paul Aguttes. "If a witness observed something through his window, we can identify where he is looking, what was his angle of vision in relation to the decor. We can then crosscheck it with other tools allowing to analyze the passage of planes, the weather conditions, the stars, the direction of the wind ", he lists.
But if these testimonies are never conclusive and are further down, what is the use of the Geipan? "We above all render a service to witnesses, by explaining in most cases the extraordinary, which sometimes prevents people from sleeping, who feel helpless," says Jean-Paul Aguttes.
But who, little green men? If the director of Geipan "does not exclude anything", recalling that science is "helpless in the face of what it does not understand", he remains fairly pragmatic.
"I think there is a much greater probability of discovering extraterrestrials at home, on exoplanets, than at home. We would then have to imagine an extraterrestrial life which becomes intelligent, then discovers unknown technologies. And even, they should visit Earth while we are there, a time very small on the scale of the universe. "
- Jean-Paul Aguttes
F I N .
